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MEGA INTERVIEW

I must say, I appreciate much more                                    in United States helped me, but it was
the opportunity I had to make                                         not completely decisive. But, you know,
a contribution to the country                                         economic establishment in Poland, and
through policies than to be                                           I guess in most other countries, was
rewarded a prize. It is better to do                                  against the reforms. When I presented my
something in the real life than to                                    program in late 1989, most of the official
describe the life                                                     economists were against it. They said it is
                                                                      impossible to introduce the convertibility
                          if they invest they will reap the benefits  of money at once. And they had nothing
                          and they would not be robed in a case       to offer. So there were opponents, some
                          of a change in the political situation.     professors of socialist economics. People
                          Countries which manage to follow these      would say, oh, this is a professor who is
                          rules ultimately are successful. But, let   against, and these were dangerous titles.
                          me repeat, one has to fight all the time    So, I did not get any advice from them. But
                          for good policies.                          they did not care. I had my own advisors.

                                                                         Regarding the education sector in
                                                                      Poland, according to certain indicators we
                                                                      are doing pretty well, like the Pisa testing
                                                                      scores. As far as the higher education
                                                                      is concerned, we have expansion, huge
                                                                      expansion, but probably we have too many
                                                                      humanists, like graduates from political
                                                                      studies, international studies, who have
                                                                      problems with finding decent jobs, and
                                                                      not enough technical staff, engineers. I
                                                                      hope that the young people will respond
                                                                      to the market incentives.

      Early in your life you were exposed                                      You have been awarded an
to education abroad, obtaining your                                   extraordinary large number of honors
master’s degree in New York. How has                                  from truly respectable parties. But one
this experience affected your professional                            of the strongest descriptions of you that
development? What are Poland’s steps                                  I have seen is that you are probably the
regarding the education sector?                                       best and most known economist in the
                                                                      world who has not yet received the Nobel
   L. Balcerowicz: There are two separate                             Prize. Do you think it may happen?
questions. Under socialists, there was no
real economics. Socialist economics was                                  L. Balcerowicz: No, I don’t think so,
a negative knowledge. I do not know how                               because the Nobel Prize is awarded
it was in former Yugoslavia. Fortunately, I                           for science, although not everything
was not very good in socialist economics.                             in economics is science. So, I am not
And as a young assistant I was teaching                               disappointed. I must say, I appreciate
international economics which was                                     much more the opportunity I had to make
much more oriented. Initially I believed                              a contribution to the country through
in Keynes, but then I stopped when I                                  policies than to be rewarded a prize. It
read a bit more. My doctoral dissertation                             is better to do something in the real life
which I defended in 1975 was related to                               than to describe the life.
technical change and I read a lot and
realized it is very much dependent on                                      Thank you very much for the interview.
free market and on private enterprises.
And this was also a weak spot in former                                                              Prepared by Zoran Jovanovski
Yugoslavia, no private entry. So, this stay

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